tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post2718748129379813418..comments2023-10-18T09:57:59.286-05:00Comments on My Three Sons {and a very busy Girl}: Boo!Angela Nashhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08264664659789446452noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post-37133177252382698462011-10-15T11:42:19.906-05:002011-10-15T11:42:19.906-05:00If you're selling a pattern, an 'original&...If you're selling a pattern, an 'original' design (and let's face it, 'original' is a relative term; we all feed off each other's ideas), you've made your profit and you shouldn't dictate what goes on from there.<br /><br />In the case of your magazine, they absolutely do not hold a copyright on Cathedral Windows. I mean, how long has that been around? And those simple, old blocks you've seen before? They magazine editors/contributors did not come up with those. Limiting what you can do with them is ridiculous.Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07980461113595763030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post-21268980869246273662011-10-12T23:43:11.641-05:002011-10-12T23:43:11.641-05:00haha, oops that last comment was made by me, not m...haha, oops that last comment was made by me, not my husband Cory.Vickihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088213674978515287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post-48847477157297389502011-10-12T23:40:52.716-05:002011-10-12T23:40:52.716-05:00One of my favorite hobby topics :). There is some ...One of my favorite hobby topics :). There is some great discussion of it on the Tabberone website, and if you want to search, go to sewingmamas.com where patterns and copyright have been discussed to death. <br /><br />Basically, I agree with Jessy, for the most part. My understanding from everything I've read is that designers can copyright their actual patterns. They have no legal right to restrict what people do with things made from their patterns. <br /><br />However, I don't think that most pattern designers are aware that they have no legal right to restrict the items made using their patterns. <br /><br />Other aspects of this that have been addressed on sewingmamas and tabberone are use of character fabric (mfr can't legally restrict you selling stuff made from logo/character fabric) and the digitizing or copying via applique of pattern designs or logos or recognizable characters (not legal). <br /><br />I think that what these crafter's copyright statements have led to, in my mind at least, is a sort of community-accepted code of ethics that isn't necessarily based on the law. Yeah, it would be legal for me to make and sell a quilt based on supercoolblogger X's tutorial that she has a copyright statement on, but it would be uber frowned upon by the blogging community. <br /><br />I am getting long winded here, but I believe that reasonable expectations under copyright law (that doesn't cover clothing design at least and I am less familiar with craft/quilt design rules) would be that it is illegal for someone to sell a copy of the pattern that I wrote, but legal for them to make the quilt from that pattern and sell it.Cory Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07544729641976181427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post-58315863842143546992011-10-12T21:49:45.686-05:002011-10-12T21:49:45.686-05:00Cute stitches and I'm holding onto my calorie ...Cute stitches and I'm holding onto my calorie binge for eggnog lattes. <br /><br />Techniques belong to us all...the rest is complicated.<br /><br />Always interested on hearing what others have to say on this topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post-34814686366613256852011-10-12T16:24:55.937-05:002011-10-12T16:24:55.937-05:00hmmm...i am not sure about all that creative copyr...hmmm...i am not sure about all that creative copyright stuff. seems like the crafting public should be a little more generous. lots of the things people are making and calling "theirs" really are just a spin on something else old or someone elses idea...inspiration. it sure does make me grumble a little to think about it.<br /><br />love the embroidery!!! great job.Lesliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11183716038434262407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post-21347691319736414552011-10-12T16:07:33.826-05:002011-10-12T16:07:33.826-05:00I love your handwork! Such fun :-) Interesting tho...I love your handwork! Such fun :-) Interesting thoughts on copyrights. It is tricky.Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620337187303791229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31805894.post-31817493992299460862011-10-12T14:32:30.168-05:002011-10-12T14:32:30.168-05:00Copyright and creative usage is something that is ...Copyright and creative usage is something that is needlessly complicated and irritating. I've been doing a lot of reading regarding it and have yet to come up with a really clear answer to all of it. I have two points that I find interesting. The first being the patterns you were referring to that are beautiful recreations of old patterns. How can you place a copyright on the pattern that you didn't write, but just re-interpreted in a fresher palette?<br />The second has to do with the legality of placing specific restrictions on the use of a pattern that is covered by a general copyright. From what I understand (please someone correct me if I am wrong!) the copyright can only legally be applied to the physical pattern and pieces. Therefore, it is illegal to reproduce or distribute the pattern and pieces (whether electronically or physically). That also means that the copyright does not cover the work produced from the pattern. Meaning, once an item has been created by the person who purchased the pattern, the owner of the copyright no longer has a say as to what happens to that pattern.<br />The way I have been reading into this seems to be that most pattern creators are actually aware of this but put that "copyright statement" in their books or patterns to discourage people from using it in a way that they do not want but have no legal recourse to enforce. Most people aren't aware of that, so they follow the statement.<br />I truly appreciate the work that people put into their patterns, so I'm not sure that it's fair to the content creators that they have no legal recourse, but it also seems that if they had full control over what happens to the product of their patterns there would be a ton of lawsuits because people would do things like sue over the re imagination of an old and well known pattern such as a cathedral window. <br />Phew, thus ends my lengthy philosophizing on copyright.Jessyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05042829649452669882noreply@blogger.com